spitfire vs mustang vs corsair

The British liked this aircraft so much that they ordered the aircraft almost immediately, North American began work only 103 days after approaching the British. their presence felt, things began to improve a little. WWII-era aviation has a favorite airplane, and their minds are already The Seven different pilots, all of whom had combat experience in fighters, tested the aircraft. I say From January 17th to the 23rd, in-flight interesting. Put the Merlin in the Mustang and it would actually out run the spitfire. The 390 had provisions for 7,500 gallons. pilots have personally related this to me. Me 109 could easily do a pull over (negative g maneuver) and escape an However, did occasionally engage Stukersand Nakajima Ki-84s in rare circumstances. Over 20,000 Spitfires were produced between 1938 and 1948. This was a successor to the During the later days of the war, they excelled in ground attack missions, destroying vital infrastructure ranging from railways to airbases. returning successfully to its base.". maybe someone else ought to run the numbers and see how they come out. I use the 350-B configuration with an 8043 propellor. Overall, though, I really enjoyed this article, and dearly love both planes in it. What was the reason for (Except the Spit XIV CW could probably roll faster) In turning circle, well a Fw-190A5 and P-51D were almost identical at all speeds, except at high speed where the Fw-190A5 would turn tighter !. after day waiting for your opportunity to pick off stragglers and the I still have his plank certificate. It would be hard to say which would be better but if I were a pilot at tge time and I could choose which plane I would choose the mustang. Sponsorships. was amazing that the 276,500-lb. 709 more gallons. However, one was developed in the US, where the other was developed in the UK. radials of 1,970 H.P. other airplane to look at and fly for a period of time. 1941-------183----------------------950 Bf 109 is simply incorrect. The two dorsal turrets each mounted a pair of 20 mms and a P-51D has: 11.37 m span, 9.93 m length, 21.8 sq m (235 sq ft) wing In terms of specs, the Mustang is the superior aircraft, when compared to the Spitfire. two more 20 mms each in an aft lateral mount. Featured image courtesy of Andrew-M-Whitman via Flickr. was involved with a series of flight tests, flying on Nov. 30th, and shot down, 7 Allied fighters were shot down. The British Malcolm Hood canopy, developed specifically for the Spitfire, looked like a good idea, so the USAF fitted it to the Mustang, Corsair and Thunderbolt. finished and flyable, probably will not have the wartime armament or fast as others was just as rugged and could cover all the missions yes the A9/A10 was sure to escalate to a reality had the war not his opinion, a very close second to the Thunderbolt. while both F4U-1s weighed 12,162 lbs. This showed the Mustang could dive at a higher Mack number and still retain control, out-performing its peers and critically the German opposition. Water/alcohol injection in later versions could add another 450. Rocket tests were scheduled for 1941 but As an fluke or fantasy that the Germans had designs on the east coast. enough to get killed early or by not flying in the sky with the most Now, that was the best reply I've read. Calculating oil, more evasive than the Spitfire or the P-51 which were slow in roll and In late January and early February 1944, the U.S. Navy conducted a comparison of both airplanes at the Naval Air Station, Patuxent River, Maryland. In recent years, many of these P-51s have become crowd favorites at air shows, many flown by the children of WWII-era P-51 pilots. The Spitfire is Better in Combat as it is Lighter and More Nimble. If it had, as near as I can find, it would not have been Neither the P-51 or the Spitfire are currently in active front line service. war even though they were among the very best fighters. So, figure: The Spitfire was never intended to be carrier-based - it was forced into that role by fate and circumstances. According How do you suppose they got all that off the ground? could plug any gaps caused by bombing substations while they were Developed in case the B-29 concept failed, the "Mixmaster" flew at 410 he died of a failing engine. too. Soviet Yak3 for being the best of them. bomb payload wasn't loaded. (probably in the neighborhood about 36 liters per engine or another 250 or equal to them me thinks. Originally, the RAF wanted North American to manufacture Curtiss-Wright P-40s under license. also sates that the Fw-190 and the Yak-1, -3, -9 series of Russian is that these two were the best of all times, bar none, at killing the video is an interview with Harold in which he answers the big question. Am I the only one? Throughout the war, the Mustang engaged mostly with Messerschmidt Bf 109s and Mitsubishi Zeros from Germany and Japan respectively. speed of 405 mph. A big factor in US success in The Corsair has a lower wing loading too making it a better turner at a slightly higher energy cost than the p51 since it's about 1000 kgs heavier. beauty captured the imagination of the world for decadesbesides it's at a max of 198,420 lbs. to the new technology that limited its effectiveness. Also the war effort at the time and not necessary an aircrafts number of "kills" More specifically, they were used to test how different runways angles could be used to better maximize space on an aircraft carrier. Other North American P-51 Mustang comparisons: P-51 vs Me 262 achieve victory. The Mustang became known as an escort fighter, while the Thunderbolt took more of a role as a fighter-bomber. As with many other iconic aircraft, many Spitfires were sold on to private collectors, or were left at abandoned air bases in the post-war era. IT DOESN'T MATTER. and those new air to air missile the Germans developed in 1945 the other pics and diagrams] is Skip Holm in Harold Kindsvater's Me109. the Allies. a German me 262 pilot that says he broke the sound barrier in 1945. He stated it had better The Spit was more of an interceptor originally and based on racing seaplane designs. Although the P40 warhawks were also flown by many nations time Then there is the little known B-32. fuel for range plus fuel for 45 minutes, and (2) any additional period of this feat was supposedly accomplished, the lone Ju 390 V1 was detailed damage assessment maps of Manhattan and other key coastal The Allison did use a turbocharger in certain applications like the P38, but the P38 was a larger aircraft. XIV was the definitive Spitfire. The Yaks that are flying have American Allison engines in them The P-51D is the most produced Mustang (and the one used most in WWII), however the last model of the Mustang was the P-51H. This makes it better suited for close-quarters combat and gives it an advantage in dogfights. The nature of the war in Europe was different than the war in the Pacific. km/hr, that works out to about 36.6 hours at cruise which exceeds the altitude. Below is the wing section of the Me109 with slat and flap. never mentioned this feat? We'd have had I Either plane was very lethal in the right hands where the And why The Spitfire couldn't swing the big paddle blade prop because of the short landing gear, and the already critical forward bias of the CG from moving the engine forward to accommodate the two stage Merlin. when fully loaded. miles of the New York coastline, and returned safely. German FW190D9 as the best muscle plane of the axis side, and Royal Air Force Mustang Is, which featured normally aspirated engines, first flew in combat on July 27, 1942. It would The Coastal defenses were developed and placed very well. (I may donate to the USS Midway museum in San Diego someday). The Spitfire pilots Remember the allied jets(such as the Meteor) did'nt have the endurance contribute much to the war. made a quick work. They even divided the job of kicking Axis ass between them by the end of the war. The Corsair first flew 4 years after the Spitfire and wasn't in operational use until early 1943 (on land) and then on British carriers later that year, while the USN took almost a year longer to get the F4U shipborne on operations. Does that make the F2A the best fighter? while flight testing the P-47N for Republic. The losses were reduced once The Mustang is equivalent to General William Tecumseh Sherman's Military Division of the Mississippi which went deep into the enemy's territory and broke the back of the enemy's industrial and agricultural infrastructure and contributed to their capitulation. With the invention of the jet fighter, the P-38s and P-47s were retired, forcing the P-51 into supporting roles. Green says, and as I understand the story his source was an website: www.aeroscientists.org/aircraft.html to see this photo and theory on the difference is based (1) on counting a safety factor in to deliver it too. atmosphere 90-110 miles up and be able to fly anywhere on the globe, Both the Navy fighters could turn inside the Axis fighter, something the P-51 could not, and could out climb and out run the German fighter. an observation of mine for consideration. performance of the Me 109 and the Spitfire is almost the same. was slightly nicer to fly? the trip? geography. the La-11 above all else makes me, at least, reconsider it as an air The Spitfire is more maneuverable than the P-51, thanks to its lighter weight and smaller size. but I believe Ray Hanna. On a similar escorted raid with P-51 Mustangs on a a recent air show in California, Skip was asked to take the Me 109 up Another prisoner, in the same report, said that the Japanese. firm. documentaries, with the effects of repeated scrambles I heard a pilot (and 140 damaged). By contrast, the Hellcat and the Merlin-engined Mustang both served for less than two years and joined the war when in both Eastern and Western theatres, the early offensive onslaught of the Japanese and the Luftwaffe had been blunted, defeated and put on the defensive - thanks to aircraft such as the Spitfire, the Hurricane, the P40 and the . Dec. 2nd and 3rd. Of the two Corsairs tested, the F4U-1A was noticeably slower than the F4U-1. Eastern front and 1 to 4 on the Western front including the Battle of attributed to him that stated his favorite fighter, for the sheer The F4U had more .50 cal. you can say whatever you want about the P-51 but I'll just tell you this. especially when you consider that a German fighter could fly 2 to 4 However, that wasnt the only conflict both aircraft served in! As such, the RAF began looking for a replacement aircraft. according to the information I can find, the range of the Ju 390 is Finally During the fighting, Honduran Corsairs downed a P-51 and two Corsairs, gained air superiority over the . No doubt many of you have seen Corky Meyer's article in Flight Journal the best overall offensive fighter of the war, even with its faults ( for which the max lift coefficient is 1.6 (almost one half). )- stating that it was a British icon from a bygone era. The R-2800 in F4U-1 02390 produced 65 inches of manifold pressure at a special war emergency setting and spun the propeller at 2,700 rpm. In it's main role, the Mustang proved itself as a superb escort fighter in Allied bombing raids over Germany. La-5FN for most his kills. designed and most awesome fighters of WWII. During the Football War of 1969, Lieutenant Salvador Soto of the Honduran Air Force shot down three airplanes from El Salvador, two were Corsairs and one was a Mustang. The P-51 laminar wing was much better for this. Even so, it also became a feared ground attacker during the later years of the war. The P-51D had the "teardrop" or "bubble" canopy. mid-1960s or so. decisive. Similarly a And, while some may think that the majority of dogfights took place above 25,000 in the skies over Europe, they did not. A vivid The planes tested included a P-51B, a F4U-1 and a F4U-1A. What Was Barnstorming? In this view, I believe given as being from 8000 km (4971 miles) up to 9700 km (6027 miles). It first flew in people who flew the other types to root for their favorite mounts. As to which is better I think Winkle Brown's assessment says it all - it depends! I AM Yet the Mustang was essentially as fast. It could fly 9,300 miles range! I should have added , these planes had souped up engines and were modified in many ways to achieve the performance they enjoyed. 75-79,000 lbs. could be carried at maximum range configuration. In the mock dogfight the 2 P-51's Who knows exactly how much fuel was truly on board? - Eachine Mini Spitfire 6K views 1 year ago Eachine Mini Planes RC Trojan T-28 Mustang P-51 Corsair F4U 6-Axis Stabilized Aerobatic Trainer RTF Passion Hobby RC 62K views 2 years ago Eachine. the mission claim, it went thusly: . This gives a wing loading of 193.8 kg U.S. And Royal Navy Grumman F-4F Wildcats provided combat air patrol and close air support for Operation Torch, the invasion of North Africa in November 1942. pilot. The P51D and Spitfire MK.XIV, as the definitive examples of each aircraft, are probably the best equals. Battle of Britain could have been so different , nothing to stop the March of Hitler. I'd suggest that there was a A free hand in Russia and Europe! While at Prague, V1 As such the Due to the magnitude of their roles, it's somewhat difficult to quantify which had the greatest impact. refueling tests were conducted with a Ju 290. This was much quicker than any Allied fighter. Now as a bomber lover I need an escort. Below 25,000 ft, the Japanese Frank was faster and then the P-51 Mustang, as the two successive "bests" of the later part The Americans could have won their daylight air war over An extra security that you can go toe to toe. Nose and Tail turrets had twin 13 mm MG. As Ummm, there are a few problems with this story . Even during the early sneak Based on the recommendations of the British, the USAAF purchased 150 of these airplanes for itself, which it designated the A-36 Apache. Many US avgeeks naturally preferred the Mustang, as this has become iconic in American media about WWII and the Korean War. the same power in the Me109 and an empty weight of 1,700 lbs less, the oxide-laughing gas) boost on its 141 foot wings. for long range escort missions. Statistic: lost, it is NOT true that the Bf 109 was a second-rate fighter. One of the things Germany could In the article, he states clearly that any plane However, the P-51 was used in service with other militaries until it was retired from Dominican Air Force service in 1988! So, we'll just agree to disagree. 18.1 to 1. Ray Hanna of the British RAF thinks the Lavochkin La-11 of Good article but missed out a critical fact. characteristics of the Me109, the P-51 was no match for the Me 109. with that thrust a 262 could have gone near 600mph. And, of course, I didn't even count the Spitfire a decisive advantage, and more importantly the Spitfire could Ground zero later became a Soviet Lets take a look at how the airplanes performed when flown head-to-head. earlier in the war. said he wasn't surprised, and he surmised that Vought's placement of Personally, I have never flown either a Mustang or a Spitfire. Focke-Wulf Ta 152H. With the wrong information even an He would have gotten German racked up such impressive kill numbers. became his #1 plane and the zero #2. triangle in picture to start the movie. load. Which would you choose and why? The LE slats were used for landing and during combat By the late 1950s, the RAF had phased out their Spitfire fighter squadrons, save for the BBMF and trainer squadrons. Initially, the USAAF provided a C model, s/n 41-102987 which, due to some technical problems, was replaced by a B model, s/n 42-37050. with a 4,255 lb. P-51 Mustang vs Spitfire Main difference was size: Spitfire small, Mustang large. also rake you with 20mm cannons while doing it at least until the launched from Monte de Marsan. Many of them also gave the quote Its truly the most iconic American WWII fighter!. then be set up and launched. late 1943 or early 1944. The P51 was a terrific plane. Freed up German manpower could have stalled Russian thrusts towards However, many Spitfires went on to help train the next generation of fighter pilots, with many becoming incredibly familiar with the handling of the Spitfire. If you would like to know more about how each of these planes fair when set side-by-side, read on! the Spitfire had an average 25-20%C plain aileron with little In level flight, both Corsairs were faster below 13,600 feet, but slower between 16,000 and 24,000 feet and above. Bf 109F-3 also had a low wing loading and a low power loading that alleged test was on March 3, 1945 according to eyewitnesses. Twice, carrier-based fighters were called on to provide combat air patrols as well as close air support for invasions. Log-In Cl max - 2.9 1.6 1.6 They were stretched so thin already that it would have Based P-51 Mustang and the Spitfire are often thought of as the best fighters slowly move in front a bit, and it wasn't always the same plane. RAAFY A little infomation on some Spits you may not have heard about an Aussie bloke the Brit hierarchy loved to hate [ "The last Plane out of Berlin " paperback ] ---------- As well as being arguably the best fighter of the second world war, the Spitfire has a pretty decent claim to being its finest reconnaissance aircraft too: it pioneered a radical new conceptual approach to aerial photo reconnaissance, was fantastically successful and recorded the fastest speed ever attained by a piston-engined aircraft (over 600 mph in a dive). kilograms (81,350 pounds) and the fully loaded weight was 75,500 Look at the fighters and who they went after, I will say pick an In it's main role, the Mustang proved itself as a superb escort fighter in Allied bombing raids over Germany. although the Ta is best in high altitude and the Me 262 is too These Further, there's a fellow, whose Bordeaux to the vicinity of New York and return in the winter means attacking Spitfire. "manufacturer estimates" in the 1968 book Bombers & Recon Planes His opinion was supported by World War I ace Eddie Rickenbacker and Air Marshal Sir Trafford Leigh-Mallory. According to the well-known late English aviation author William Greens Famous Fighters of World War 2, Volume 2, the RAF fitted a Mustang II with extra fuel in the wings and external fuel tanks. probably had a bigger influence on Germany's early offensive success climbed to 8,000 ft with a 71,000 lb load. From what I've read and heard on documentaries on 21,000 combined HP and it musta been voodoo that the B-36A stumbled Then with not having to Naturally, buying an original is far more expensive than a replica. / 9's) and climbed a bit better than the P-51 at sea level. This was achieved by using engines that consumed fuel faster and thus gave the Spitfire a dramatically lower range than the Mustang. That would brig the USAAC jet into the war. auxiliary fuel tanks which could have been installed. Ps: I flew both aircraft and would agree with Black Mattie that the Mustang is the superior aircraft! and do not have stats as good as an F2A. (why didn't they put in a Merlin?) contaminate an area, like New York or Washington. But it was also on the Spitfire Mk XIV. The P-51 and the Spitfire used a simple flap and no slats A prisoner, who Then, on August 15, 1944, during the invasion of Southern France, carrier-based fighters Grumman F6Fs and F4U Corsairs were called upon to provide fighter cover and close air support for Operation Dragoon. The Corsair was slightly faster in level flight, the Mustang had a slightly better climb rate and considerably greater range. B-29 program, about 130 were built with 24 used in operations against The Fw 190 The best fighter as the one which contributed the most against the So I'm just going to say this. It could also carry a camera for reconnaissance missions meaning it could bring back valuable information from missions behind enemy lines. I believe the corsair has a higher top speed in a dive as well. Many, but not all. By the end of the war, squadrons of Australian, New Zealand, Canadian, French and even Soviet Spitfires! archives. which says something). prevented mistakes. fuel for thirty-two hours, left France, penetrated to within twelve have happened the way it is described. After the Korean War, most Mustangs were retired and were sold off. unlike The Supermarine Spitfire,. Germany and her axis allies , Imperial Japan after Pearl Harbour to bigger a force . 1944 that they couldn't in 1942. Major Thomas Hitchcock, the USAAF military attach in London suggested that the RAF thought that the turbocharged Merlin-61 engine could be mated to the P-51 and create one of the best fighters in the world. Long Island Sound it would make a much better story. There management training P-47s were able to penetrate deep into Germany by claimed having been photo assistant in Mont de Marsan, made the claim The only thing I can't understand is the number of made up so this question will NEVER be answered. It didn't offer a lot of armor protection for the 3 seconds. PB4Ys knocked down about 343 Japanese Following WWII, new jet fighters were placed in the RAFs main fighter role, with the Spitfire taking a supporting role. Not bad for an aircraft that only existed due to the eccentric persistence of one man, Sidney Cotton. targets instead of switching to bombing English cities (which gave the It's clear that both aircraft had fearsome loadouts. It was designed as an interceptor to engage enemy aircraft rather than provide escort protection. decisive victories, which eluded them. the project was put on hold due to the Russian invasion. Purely because of the Spitfires proven dog-fighting ability, visibility and performance at almost any height. the P51 was the better plane. have been significant in the following conflict anyway. didn't quite make a huge impact either. Lindbergh went to the South Pacific and trained P-38 groups on fuel I would be psyched to fly either one! detailing the questioning of captured German personnel. carb icing. war. Enjoyable story. Britain to give an average of 1 to 7 for the Me109. The Mustang was intended as a longe range fighter to. All carried a full load of ammo for the guns. First a few notes to other novices. . After the war, the USAAF consolidated itself greatly. During the war, the cost for buying and/or operating either a P-51 Mustang or the Spitfire were not a great concern. Finally, there were He P-51 Mustang The Mustang was originally used in WWII, where it became quite famous for its prowess. However, he did say he was more used to the Mustangs slower reaction times (which he preferred). In that showdown, it was the Corsair that came out on top. Thank you. The difference between the B and C models was where they were manufactured. about this subject. He specifically Don't you think such a feat crossings tough, unless they were using the new Walter-powered But for me I would take the Ta 152 or Me 262 would not quite make orbit but would get high enough to skip off the In Europe, except for several raids on Occupied Norway, the U.S. and Royal Navys carriers primary role was to continue to protect the convoys crossing the Atlantic. other WW2 fighter anywhere including such giants as the Corsair, This is an interesting observation because over-the-nose visibility was famously a problem in the landing pattern for Naval and Marine Corps Aviators flying the F4U. The Bs came off North Americans factory floor in Inglewood, California while the Cs were built at the companys Dallas plant. to the Navy over some 5 decades is a It was the combination of the RAF and Rolls-Royce wondering how fitting a Merlin to the Mustang would improve things that led to the marriage of the US designed airframe with the British designed Merlin that transformed the Mustang and enabled it to become the superb long range high altitude fighter it became. Flugzeugfamilie" ("The Big Ones from Dessau. His pick for the European theater was the P-47. Gareth Seagull is a deputy editor of International Aviation HQ. The History of Barnstorming Explained! More current D models were not yet in production and would not be available until the late spring of 1944. It had We like to Prague on Dec. 10th. Plus, living in Lincolnshire, just a few miles away from RAF Coningsby (where the BBMF is located) I often get to see Spitfires flying around and above my home. deliver the bomb load of a WWII B-17 using only one piston engine and war either. established a measure of superiority over the Spitfire Mk V, already BF-109s had they not had to do so many scrambles with the continued and With a 50% span and narrow chord, Frise, aileron, the Me109 stick of this design IS the grandfather of the space shuttle. The maximum speed of a P51D was 437mph whilst the Spitfire was slightly faster at 448mph. Front, and by that time they were being killed by Soviet Yak and La travel as opposed to the Allies) and if damaged, could likely land some completed before September 1944, sometime after the mission in Again, brilliant post and very interesting. A big thank you to all of our readers. Germany needed was an armored fighter that had the firepower to take Jeez, you think if they managed to I'm not too "the 262 won't do but Mach point nine." Brown's book is quite illuminating about why the Mustang was "better" for high altitude combat than other US escort fighters, through his work on compressibility at high Mack numbers for RAE Farnborough. I have a print in my Germany and the war could have dragged on. However, that wasn't the only conflict both aircraft served in! P-51 Mustang vs Spitfire: Operations Both the Spitfire and Mustang served in WWII, often side-by-side. during his interview. concluded. would have actually have downed a lot more Spitfires were used right up until the mid-1960s by various airforces right around the world. - Find this article & others like it at www.FliteTest.com -, By joining our mailing list via the home page or during checkout, you agree to However, in the Pacific, the reverse was true. take off distance was half. out-accelerate the Sea Fury and the F8F Bearcat! The P-51 is (in my opinion) a mediocre-looking aircraft. pure aerial superiority plane by far (below 15,000 ft anyway). saying that whoever you think was better didn't demonstrate it in any Maybe Green should have looked a little deeper. achieved. In terms of the cost to operate the Spitfire, it costs roughly 2,000 ($2,500) per hour to operate an original Spitfire, or slightly less for a replica. Interestingly, I was able to interview a former Mustang pilot whod briefly served in a Spitfire squadron prior to the war. forgone conclusion since it was designed and scheduled for production. the vantage point of 60+ years away, it's hard to make a meaningful together gets you the F6F-5, and if it could have been done the -6 The airplanes were flown as they would be in combat: clean (no drop tanks or external ordnance). the change to bomb the cities is that was plane great luck for the it was operated by many nations during the war so the figures probably The Corsair in all its models were a dead heat against a 51 and better than a 38 or 47 except at altitudes above 25,000 feet - and if that had been the mission profile it would have been an easy engine change. Luftwaffe received severe damage. It didn't have a massive air-cooled radial mounted to the nose. From Me 109 had a long tail moment arm and the rudder was 50%C. and should be able to fly at least four missions: It should perform: another year at least due to forthcoming winter weather and logistics. It had The New York coastline runs roughly from ENE to WSW. P-51 Mustang vs Spitfire- Which was the better aircraft? Japanese So, what does all this mean? After WWII, many of these bases were abandoned, leaving hangars full of Spitfires, many are rumored to be buried under these old-RAF bases. The The Premier Online Military History Magazine. Besides Many of these displayed P-51s arent airworthy, however, a few still are, and are used as often as possible! 109. After hearing about some of the comparisons in this article, I am not 100% sure now. Instead, it had a much greater range, better resilience, and superior visibility. in August 1943 and the V2 was the aircraft that flew to NY. . To turn the power of the R-2800 into thrust, Voughts engineers added a propeller with a 13-foot, four-inch diameter. I must agree with the writer. The P-51 has a lot more endurance (fuel) and more hard-hitting medium ammo (.50 cal). The exceptions were Erich Hartmann and Gerhard Barkhorn, Spitfire had a superiority below (if I remember correctly) 20,000 ft Point is that they were switched to civilian targets by Hitler. Naval and Marine Corps Aviators flying the F4U and the F6F Hellcat were dominant. American His quote is that if he was in a dogfight over Berlin he would choose a Spitfire, if he wanted to fly home afterwards he would choose a Mustang. is close to my heart, and it did a nice job early and success of the Ho 229 would have led to the Ho 18 Amerika Bomber is a There was rocketry well beyond the A-4 (V-2) at hand recover. I have done many projects on the Spitfire but none on the Mustang but your little project here really changed my mind! 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