dads against unfair child support

Yeah me too they have taken my children and all my money. Some states call that crime "battery" others refer to it as "assault.". I take that money and put it in my retirement fund with no shame and no regrets. Thank you!! Yeah nothing wrong with that. The statistics simply do not support Roses claims. I pay for all of their private school tuition, child support, and I have them equal time other than 4 days a month. The suffering i cant bear must be worse for my kids thinking they were not loved Fast forward to the last three years and it has been downhill since! A Missouri state senator who went viral because he apparently thinks it's OK for 12-year-olds to get married is clarifying his remarks. The law should be added to so that those women don't have several babies and then wait for the child support to come in. The State of Indiana, St. Joseph County, specifically, awarded a court order of $2, 346.00, this at the initial child support hearing, 219.00 every two weeks. Now, I pay support and I will be paying all the bills associated with the children, because ex refuses to work and cant pay that bill. I would certainly make that trade. Yes i had to get a lawyer, were in process of appeals, 2nd what do you think about the 277,000 home?? She can abort the child, without his consent. Best said by attorney Melanie McCulley: When a female determines she is pregnant, she has the freedom to decide if she has the maturity level to undertake the responsibilities of motherhood, if she is financially able to support a child, if she is at a place in her career to take the time to have a child, or if she has other concerns precluding her from carrying the child to term. You should consider how the father daughter relationship was during those two first years. That becomes a very slippery slope for a lot of dads. If you ask for reasonable help the state will try to help, but asking for $0 if youre able to work and help is ridiculous. On Tuesday, Republican lawmaker Mike Moon suggested he supported the rights of 12-year-olds to tie the knot during a debate about a bill he introduced that would ban gender-affirming care for the state's . In my state the father is subject to license suspension, penalties and fines, and jail time if the support amount is not current. However, any conversation with his ex would turn into I have custody, I will raise them how I want.. So he was not making enough money to help in the household therefore came our decesion in opening a business, however this came to a bigger problem the ex found out so she is sending us to court to have her child support increased . But, the outcome does depend on the circumstances, such as: Their income. SMHeven the judge said WOW! Freedom being not having to find childcare, being able to go out whenever or wherever they want, not dealing with teenage drama or temper tantrums, making sure the kids are respectful civilized human beings etc. There should be a base number that covers food, clothes and lodging split 50/50 between both parents. I have had custody of her since she was born. I have expressed my concerns to her dad (when I still talked to him) and he never has any response other than that our daughter knows he loves her. Now take half your paycheck and give it to the next person you see. They spend way too much time chasing and threatning the fathers that are paying so that those cases can used in their bs statitics as a means of showing the system works. 42 US Code 654(21)(a) caps the amount of interest that a state can charge at 6-percent per year, but many states ignore this statute. Im moving to Canada, Mexico or any other country for that matter. My brother is an even better example. In the meantime, their support payments are a fraction of what it costs to raise their children. Step Parents are still parents too and if they are providing for the child, they should be accounted for. We actively reach out to the adult kids but are met with denial. So let me clarify my intention for this response. She would stay in bed til 2 pm and get up and make herself food. Dido mine cheated and my kids live with grandmother her mother while shes out partying and doing drugs Im in mass shes in florida and my kids tell me shes never their said she lives in a van her own mother cant stand her. Now he is going to court in a few days to show why he isnt in contempt of court and our 10 month old baby may have to see her father go to jail because of this corrupt system!!! Be there for the kids or dont be there at all. I was immediately looked at as a deadbeat dad but kept losing over half my checks to pay amount that was based on my previous job. You are not entitled to them. Unbelievable. The one whom owes Child Support pays Child Support with After-Tax Money. Why is she entitled to it? when BOTH parents want custody) mothers win full custody about 75% of the time. Thats easy. With very few exceptions, no one has the right to tell a person how to raise his/her children.. Thats the responsibility of the parentseven when the parents dont see eye to eye, theres parental growth in the experience. Now mind you everytime I got paid I asked her if she need money for anything. I am so very happy today that he came back to me and i achieved this with the help of ( Robinson.buckler @ yahoo. Why filter the $ through my ex? They collect child support from my daughter. Reform Family Law and Family Courts So just like every other tax-man I have ever met you are woefully uninformed and clearly do not have a gasp of real life sufficient to comment on real world matters. So no, this isnt about parental rights. I really dont get it why should he have to pay more just because we decided to have a better income. She pulled their daughter out of school because it made her son gay. i feel bad for any child who has to be forced to live this way the law makers should be shot!!!!! etc. Paying over 500 month, while Shes living rent, mortgage free because her mom paid for it along with a brand new vehicle. Luckily I was medically discharged before the courts could decide how much child support I would have to pay as an E-4, so now unemployed they charged me to pay what someone making minimum wage would pay. To the payee it hurts. Women in general did stand by their man in those days. There are support for the divorce side which wasnt helpful for my case. Abortion pill whatever poses a health risk to the mother also. Her mother lost the case in civil court and that made her mad enough to try to change custody. If he wants to give me all the burden of child rearing AND 90% of the expenses, then he and every parent like him (male or female) can suffer the consequences. Your wages will be garnished out of your check and sent directly to the child support office so the child support office can get their matching federal dollars which is a huge multi-billion-dollar industry for these states it is sad and corruption and its very worse taking children away from their fathers so the state the attorneys the judges can all make money off this deal sickening is what it is. Hes been on child support, while being a great dad, whereas my daughters father is not present, even with attempts to include him. I also can understand how some of the women on her feel. Furthermore I bet the majority of the exes would try to say the other was Unfit. The child support agency in Virginia says I have to continue to pay her the same amount because we have a unitary order instead of an per order, we were never married and all the stuff I have read says in VA 18 or graduates. Dont be afraid, make sure that the powers that be, the judge, understands that you are not in agreement of any order that violates your rights as a human being, that is, your right to parent your child as you see fit. and your civil rights are being violated and definitely hire an attorney. Its pretty fracked up. So i asked another question that my daughter turned 18 in feburary and it states that if a child fails to or does not attempt to further education that child support stops when 18, The answer i got do you have proof Really!!!! Don't give up. Thats whats wrong with parenting,there is always that one who feels they should have ALL THE SAY SO.. EVERYONE has to learn how to Co -parent. Half of the amount that Mr V is paying would be more than enough to support a great quality of life for his children. Its totally free to join, and the federal court relief being demanded includes the full restoral of my child custody rights under law, plus a nice share of the large amount in civil damages expected. I wish my support was 219 every 2 weeks! I have been turned into an ATM machine and a babysitter in my kids life in many ways. I would also like to see a child support trust account like this one (http://www.mediate.com/articles/if_they_can_do_parenting_plans.cfm) become the norm, again, to make supporting the children a shared responsibility instead of treating the non-custodial parent as a support check that is allowed to visit with their children at the custodial parents whim. NOW I receive a letter from Child Support telling me they are CLOSING MY CASE with him still owing almost $20,000 dollars!! It is time to ACT. Believe me, I understand that women got screwed back in the days. So if that isnt a DEAD BEAT DAD WHAT IS? Move on with your life, be a good father, and pay your support. You can own your children just like you want. I dont blame him. The equal earning parents then have dramatically different post-child support budgets, since one is receiving and the other is paying. Setting us against each other and gaining revenue in the process. He has always had the child 15 days per month and she filed as though he didnt have any overnight stays and with false income information. The CS system is flawed and it should ONLY be for helping the Parent that is does not have a job and NEEDS the money to care for the childrennot just a handout because of some formula that works in favor of one parent vs the other. HELL NO!! Thats is ridiculous. They make noncustodial parents finance their childrens college education, but they dont make married parents pay for their childrens college educations?????! One problem that is not stated as explicitly as it should be is the way that current child support laws serve as a barrier to true shared parenting. So I went to school and got a job. Bipolar disorder runs in her family unfortunately, I wish I was making this up but its the harsh reality we live in. The harsh reality is that non of our law makers have the balls to make the changes that are truely in the best interest of the children in fear of losing votes. Your children with be proud of you. Child supp0rt took almost all he made leaving us with a home in disrepair, while she took vacations on that money we were sending her!! In Georgia, non-custodial parents who owe at least $5,000, have not made payments in the last six months and have not been located, are placed on the Georgia DHS's public list, with the hope that someone might see the list and can help track down the parent owing child support. Saying that I still think the system is broken and outdated. My kids father NEVER got them. Jerrad Ahrens licensed in NE and IA only. What can i do if my mom didnt take care of me from 12-18 and she collected child support and now im 28 i watch my 60 year old dad struggle to keep paying his arrears to her still today? Rent should be taken out of the equation,both parents need a place to live and see there children,to me this is the biggest flaw in child support,I had full custody of my daughter since 5 her mom paid me $150 a month thats it. Not to mention all of the little things they ask for through the year.. We have 50/50 custody though she is the custodial parent.. Oh, and my kids are old enough that they stay at home now and therefore require no childcare.. Our kids are and always have been well taken care of. It automatically goes straight to my exs account. Children are not pay checks ! We have been fighting for years to see my husbands kids but we finally gave up because of the nightmare she made it. Ive felt the same emotions as you, still feel a lot of them. Reducing and, in some cases, forgiving arrears. Your judgement obviously stinks! Fathers today still need support when experiencing divorce and child custody proceedings. (I live in Florida if that helps) they may have an unofficial agreement that hasnt been brought to court (Im not exactly sure about that) im Afraid that if my dad stops paying the support than my mom will try to bring it to court and do something crazy. Daycare is not a need. You have your freedom. The insanity did not stop until I declared BANKRUPTCY the best option out there to stop the bleeding and financial harassment.My opinion examine your total ex spousal obligations with a bankruptcy attorney . I was in my childs life before she even was born. To be honest, she could have whatever she wants. I had full custody of my youngest daughter until her maternal grandmother in Kentucky decides to file for custody, therefore began the scenario of stating that its not right for a little girl to grow up alone with her young father (Im 27) and that her and her husband can provide a better life. The process will continue whether you want to participate or not. The National Parents Organization states, "Long ago and far away there was a land in which non-custodial fathers paid child support directly to the custodial motherIn the 1970s, child support collection, disbursement and accounting became a function of government instead." #childsupport #indigentfathers #americancorruptfamilylaw What is that??!! There are bad mothers and there are bad fathers. In my experience almost all divorced women claim to be abused. Ive had CSS employees tell me that its a horrible situation, and they feel badbut give me little advice. At that, the interest money goes to the ex spouse, as well. Especially when one parent tries to do the right thing against all odds and is not rewarded, just punished. One of the dirty secrets of child support is that states get kickbacks under the Child Support Performance and Incentive Act for increasing the gross amount of child support collected. So this guy told me that the money was taken due to the support I told him I was gifted that money which o have proof and he raised his voice and told me so you have responsibilities with this support case and he snapped. All this because the child doesnt know any better and is trusting and dependent on her. I feel your pain I have a evil kiss mom took everything gets 1300 a month Im left with 220 week to live off of been trying so hard so long Im about to give up either go insand, kill myself ,or hurt people..I am refused my kids by her she tries to keep our bond up tells them bad things about me took and takes eveverything I plus gets all my money Idk wtd Im sick of living ,cryingstressed ot of my mind Im sick every day I cant remember the last time I was happy Im a good father she always wins dont work just makes my life hwell, Im going through the same man if it makes you feel any better I had no idea till last year after paying the same amount for 9 years I would get taken to court for back support my kids are 23, 18, 17 and right before the age out took me for the original amount she was awarded when we agreed on separate amount I payed 600 every month for 9 years. Interesting conversation. Plus, by his time, the kids didnt want to leave a household where they could do just about whatever they want, and come live in a household where there would be rules and consequences. And continue to incentivize the worst women to destroy their soon to be ex-babys daddies. youve been served. Stay-at-home fathers are not always cast in the best light. Just sad, he raised his kids til they were teenagers, was married to her for 14 years, until she cheated, and now he doesnt get to be there for them as mom used them as a weapon and still tells them he doesnt pay, so they send him not so nice emails. Your situation is in the minority overall. Its sad it comes down to money instead of pure love, but unfortunately in this society If you do not have enough money so many things fall apart. Just told me what I was going to pay based off what I made they didnt consider my other cases now on top of that she jumped up took my kids out of school and moved to a different city called child support and they said she can do what she want. I had all 3 of my daughters since before they started school. Then she still didnt let him. The system is wrong. A kid can only eat so much or wear so many clothes. Well if thats the case why cant she be held to this same standard? So how is it you can gear that towards men but not women? Rotten and broken system where the children get hurt the worst and a father is allowed to raise their step children and not their own. Lisa Karges, Florida Resident Partner - Tampa, FL. Once again he has no say. I was in relationship with my boyfriend and we were planning to get married soon and all of a sudden he left me for another girl, i really love this guy and never can imagine my life without him. Its what is best. The truth is, many mothers that have sole custody dont get to start over. She said no. His current child support was reduced from $649 a month for Jessica to $325 a month and the payments on the back child support were reduced from $400 a month to $150 a month. Long story short if Your gona be a great Dad, Your gona have to pay alot of alot of $$$ .God bless and Thank You Jesus for taking care of my needs and keeping me healthy enough to work. Parenthood being a 2-way street and all lets consider the fact that the parent paying child support also has freedom. And he is an amazing father. Except this doesnt matter when it comes to men and fatherhood. There are a couple of other pages, but its the same thing in other languages. We requested a modification in writing and never got a response. Sorry man. Im still a low income father with huge back payments. So IMO one parent is the rule enforcer, do your homework, clean your room, do chores, go to bed early and the other is the carefree lets go have fun and stay up late on weekends parent. So if your work schedule interferes, its okay to leave the kid at Moms until it works better for you, right? He eventually gets a job and after working there for months he and his company receives garnishment notice . Because we could barely pay bills, he got behind on taxes, had to file bankruptcy to get out from under all of the credit card bills she ran up when they were married. If the mother works and makes $140k a year, then your annual child support obligation of $20,892 does not even come close to what she is contributing to the care of your kids if she is the custodial parent. Try it out. Top it off, I could not get SSI benefits for her, she was denied!! I have been dealing with the same issue. My ex has erased me from my daughters lives. Interestingly, the wife in this case cant be booked because adultery law doesnt recognize adultery by a married woman in India. If she makes that much more. They have been making me pay child support. This is what you call corruption, plain and simple, It is sad really. Child support also assumes the non-custodial parent doesnt spend any money on the child on their own (which we all know is nonsense in most cases). Some men hate paying child support! Charging illegal amounts of interest on child support arrears increases the gross amount of child support collected, which again, increases the kickbacks that states receive for collecting child support. Because many judges are locked into the the higher the child support is the better it is for the child mentalitywhich completely undermines the shared parenting approachthey are reluctant to deviate downward in child support award. That's the deal when you become a dad or mom. He started paying support to hey prior to an order. They are turning our children into disrespectful, hateful, unappreciative, entitled, narcissitic young adults who lack empathy, and have learned to lie cheat and steal as long as it is a means to their end, without remorse, without morals, standards, or integrity. Try 110 a week. I have three children that I was able to watch come into this world. There are no outlets, besides grassroot organizations for single fathers to reach when dealing with child support cases. False allegations of abuse. As we all now those numbers are not based in reality. Then, they guilt trip you by asking you want to take care of your child, dont you? He spent a lot of time with her and helped support her financially. This makes the assumption that the states dont already know their laws are draconian. it is three times more deadly for a man to spend any given year supporting his children on the job than it is for the mother in that same years time to ever have a pregnancy to the birth or for the mother to have an abortion. Was known previously as AFDC. I saw first hand how the court system simply does not care about anything you have to say in regards to your parenting rights being taken from mom without any valid reason it is truly sad but Im hopeful things are gonna change. This is a basic civil right. (Parent Alienation). Im am completely distraught. Not true for MO. Introducing the Unfairness of Child Support for Fathers: A Closer Look Child support is an issue that has been under the microscope for decades. Imagine a scenario where parents have 50/50 custody, earn equal amounts, therefore being capable of offering the child the same lifestyle at each home. If the costs were truly added up and split 50/50, they should actually be paying more than they are complaining about. It is outrageous so even suggest that you shouldnt have to pay for supporting your child because your ex works hard. support the brandon jones act in wa state. But all water under the bridge 20 years of my life and over 700k nwt income spent on nothing. We also dont degrade one another in front of our child. Do some research. My family court judge refused and stated that Your [ex-]wife (NOT our children) deserves that money. In the 21 century men and women are considered equal. I dont do drugs, drink, or smoke, but hell if I have a pot to piss in. I managed to prove to the court that the ex does in fact work under the table. As of last week his drivers license was suspended and the job opportunity he had lined up has backed out because he cant drive for them without a license. Can anyone help, or are we just victims of a system that cares only about generating revenue by victimizing innocent people. If the child support payments are current and all arrears are satisfied, the tax refund is not intercepted. The current system does help in some instances but in this one i believe it created greed. India even recognizes adultery by unmarried man who sleeps with a married woman. But by law she is still entitled to get child support (tax free) even though she has a very successful career. Women have the advantage right off the bat. The family court system exists today more to feed government employment than protect and provide for children, and it is definitely stacked against dads. The court rejected his argument that, since a woman may avoid motherhood through abortion, the man had a right to disclaim responsibility for a child born against his wishes. I think you mean both have a chosenin who they sleep with and who they marry . I quit even trying to collect in 2009. Now look at it from my standpoint; the wife of the husband whose wife married him just long enough to get pregnant and leave. I love my child and I was at my happiest when I spent time with him. Even though I won in court I lost in the end but what keeps me going is knowing this cant last forever. CHILD SUPPORT MAY DETER UNWED FATHERS: There were a number of stories on this study. In P.A. Home / Articles / 4 Problems With The Modern Child Support System. How come they give illegal aliens welfare but dont make them get a job, any job to pay it back?????! I stopped going around her house and was calling to speak to my daughter in which I kept saying to her lets make an arrangement for me to support her, she went off the hook and started cursing me out so I returned some of her words then 2 weeks later she served me with a protection order. Hmm so where do i go from here i found out she purchased a house back in 2006 for$277,000 when she did her financial report she said she was only getting 1000 a month, HMMMM now i start looking into more info, the case worker does not care, all they care about is getting my money, where do i go from here?? We decided to open a business because 30% of his check would go to child support. takes time and energy, and employers pay higher salaries to employees whore available for work anytime, can travel, etc. I am disgusted with our family court system, I am disgusted with women who play the system and take advantage of their childrens father, and I have a new understanding why for some fathers it is easier to wash their hands of the entire situation and walk away. No parent should be paying another parent to rasise their own child. Ive been paying, lost my job, got behind, live in a different state. Daycare, my foot. But I studied all of this and fought it like no other I pay for a majority of my girls clothes, coats ECT. But it costed me a lot of money to get proof and to go to court those 5 times, and in the end Im still paying. My wife began seeing someone else and blamed it on me being distant. I pay what I can when I can but I wont be able to work at all if this happens and my girlfriend cant afford to support us both and shouldnt have to if the courts would follow the law and calculate the arrears and payments based on my actual adjusted gross income. Its very simple unless youve been the one to pay your exes new car payment while driving ole trusty rusty you have no idea. 5) If a woman wants an abortion it is up to her. Feels great doesnt it? You are being conspired against as soon as you enter the court room. Its not welfare and its not based on need. I know women have a monopoly on victimhood, however, its ok to see men as victims for once. Fathers Against unfair Child support and jail time over support You said something about his room and the mattress. As Graham points out, 29 percent of families in the system live below the federal poverty line. How much you pay basically depends on how many nights per fortnight the children spend with you. If youre paying something somewhat reasonable, usually at all, they dont go after you. The state uses federal matching funds from teh federal taxpayer to balance their budgets. Some parents dont want to be and others arent fit to be parents even though they want to be. I know there are genuinely some men who want their children and are great fathers, and I applaud and support them in this battle. Have any of you contacted an elected official or one that running for office? Where? Hes got 3 other kids and hes doing great? Hes only paid child support 7 times. The first was a rastafarian who claimed he could not cut hair like he used to, and planned to get an hvac license, $300 perge 30 days. Thank you just my opinion as a single mom of what are now adult children I raised! I know a fact that this lady does not use child support money on our child, she uses it on alcohol and other things that have nothing to do with the child, but hey I digress. Mothers are grossly exploited nowadays while dads sit back and receive the money, 50% custody, and respect for fighting for their kids when in reality most just dump them at grandmas and make mom pay for everything and do all care-taking. My kids have a roof over there head, clothes on their back, shoes on their feet, and food on their table, BECAUSE of the Lord and ME! So why bother. Without going into a lot of detail, I had it pretty bad with support and other divorce obligations. And if my child stays with him, she will be fed with food that she is allergic too, stays in the computer all day long and unsupervised with assignments, and not even read to before bedtime, only goes to the mall as part of going out does not even bring her to the park which is just walking distance, so why the hell I will let that happen. Child support dont care about anyone they have no hearts they just want to be cruel to random people. while also stripping her of her God-given talent and love for caring for those precious kiddos. Check out a documentary called, DivorceCorp. There was a point where I think he stopped bathing. He was threatening, abusive, pulled guns on me. My ex is a college graduate from a top college to be a registered nurse. Im not lonely on the holidays. Its a never ending bullshit cycle judges in SC dont have to go through dss. An my wife owes only a couple of months so she owes $250 in child support an thats only cause i was takin out of work due to back injuries like spinal stenosis, degenerative discs an a pinch sciatic nerve in my left leg. "It's a case of, 'Get your lazy behind off the couch,'" Trout says of judges addressing stay-at-home dads, adding that he heard one judge say almost precisely that. Same with trying to get better housing, so he wouldnt have to go to his sisters house every time he had his children. The guidelines need to be taken back to the drawing board. I agree!!!! Plenty of women just enjoy complaining and man bashing when they arent a perfect parent either. The State calculator yielded a "Fair child support figure of $450.00 that Bob was to pay. My daughters mother put she was only making 8.50 an hour working 28/hrs a week when she filed for child support. Judge Judy who was a real judge, hates child support. He drank to medicate himself and begged for a divorce. 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