alto ts312 vs yamaha dbr12

2021/05/21

Thanks for the heads up. I personally own a QSC CP8 that I use for smaller open mic nights or jam sessions which is very capable with a great sound and consistent peformance to my DXR12 which I use for professional gigs. Smaller isn't necessarily the problem with the JBL's. Inmusic claims that the FRFR112 is "voiced for guitar", but the only difference that they'll admit to is the lack of mic preamps. I could just order all of it and return the lesser ones, but if at all possible I'd rather not do that. Paste as plain text instead, The higher range do that and have presets for different situations and placements. If you get the Yamaha, I'd get the stands anyway. You can post now and register later. The Yamaha are lower powered, but higher quality and more flexible (DSP). Ill definitely check out that channel. pilethemup, Since they're a bass reflex system you'd need to follow the manufacturers directions regarding placement. They should also go on (short) speaker stands to prevent bass coupling with the floor, and because they don't have the DSP that more expensive speakers have to cope with that.

The lower range speakers (Alto, Headrush, etc) also use bi-amping, but the crossover frequency is fixed.

Ok. Cost is the same on both. Unfortunately, while I'm within 20 minutes of 3 different Guitar Centers, not one of them has both of these to demo. Upload or insert images from URL. A pair of short speaker stands will cost about $50: https://www.guitarcenter.com/On-Stage/SSAS7000B-Mini-Adjustable-Speaker-Stand-1500000023557.gc. The room I play in is decent size (13'x30'), and I tend to move around alot, almost never playing while sitting. Asalready noted though, either would be more than adequate for your needs.

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If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I've decided on the Helix LT. I'm about to jump into the modeling game. Check out Jason Sadites' channel he's got a number of Helix- specific tutorials. Selling my tube stuff and cabs to go full modeling. They will most undoubtedly sound very high fidelity, and will probably sound okay as you move about the room, but the stereo effect will be limited. Pasted as rich text.

On a side note, no matter what you choose, do yourself a favor and watch some youtube vids on how to dial in a modeler with FRFR speakers. As you mentioned, volume isn't a primary concern. For your needs, either will do. Powered by Invision Community, Opinions on speaker situation for Helix LT, Apple M1, MacOS 11 and 12 Compatibility with Line 6 Software. It'll take a while. The Altos are PA speakers, and have a much wider dispersion. You cannot paste images directly. I also own a ZLX-12P which I use for a side fill monitor, but have used it on occasion for my Helix. I use a single HR FRFR112 and it sounds great. However, keeping the above feature differences in mind, the relative quality in terms of construction and durability on the low end has increased considerably in recent years. The speakers that would fall into this category would be things like the QSC CP12, EV ZLX-12P, or Yamaha DBR12. I've come to the realization that I get zero benefit from a tube amp because I can never really push the tubes. I've never compared them. The next level of speakers would be more mid-range priced, have more flexibility for adjusting for usage, but a bit lower maximum volume, and use a bi-amp design for separating power to the speaker and the horn. Which one you'd prefer only you can answer, and there's exactlyone way to findout. They'll sound best standing at the apex of the equilateral triangle between the speakers. Generally speaking, other than professional large scale concert type speakers, you have three basic levels in the market right now. ), and fairly high volumes.

I switched from an all tube setup, as well. YMMV. LOTS of people use the Yamaha and are very happy. That's simply the nature of the design of those types of speakers. The premium level speakers have all the general features of the mid-range speakers and with moreclean and precise high volume performance, and more advanced electronics and DSP capabilities for contouring the speaker's response. Your previous content has been restored. IMPORTANT SAFETY ALERT: RELAY G10 TRANSMITTER FIRE HAZARD. April 6, 2019 in Helix. Your link has been automatically embedded. The main difference between the FRFR112 and the TS312 is that the TS312 has mic preamps. By For my needs? Playing by myself to a backing track or whatever I just don't need the volume. Still not clear. This being a Helix forum, between the AXE and the Helix, guess which one we'll recommend? I use a pair of Yamaha DXRs on stands in my basement with my LT. Sorry about the crappy paint work, I'm not an artist. Manyplayers making the switch from tube amps have difficulty at the outset. Next dilemma is how to get sound from the Helix. A pair, plus stands, will cost about $650. Clear editor. The low end systems which have a good range of sound but very little flexibility in terms of adjusting for different placements and types of usage (spoken lectures, recorded music, live music, etc. There's often a steep learning curve one that's totally worth it imho sodon't expect instant gratification. Either a pair of JBL 308P MKII on stands, or a pair of Alto TS310 on the floor as wedges. My main concern is that the JBL's may sound "smaller", compared to the Alto. A frequently asked, yet unanswerable question it's entirely subjective. I've narrowed it down to two options. Line 6, Inc. Display as a link instead, As DD said, you get what you pay for. I just don't know which will sound best. A pair of DBR10s will cost about $800 vs $500 for the Altos. That being the case I might suggest you look more into the mid-range speakers such as the ZLX series, DBR series, or CP series. Modelers are NOT guitar amps, and FRFR speakers have a much wider and flatterfrequency response than typical guitar speakers, requiring acompletely different approach to the use of EQ. Yamaha's warranty is hard to beat though! You might also consider looking into the smaller versions of these speakers as bass response really isn't a major consideration when it comes to DSP driven powered speaker designs. Higher up means closer to ear level and that always sounds better to me. The Alto's or Headrush would fall into this category. The type of speakers falling into this category would be things like the QSC K12.2, Yamaha DXR12, or the Line 6 Stagesource speakers. Speakers with DSP adjust crossover frequency and/or relative power levels between low and high frequency components based on volume levels. Which would be better? As for speakers, the JBLs are near field monitors, intended for mixing. As mentioned previously they're studio monitors, meaning they're meant to be listened to in a very specific equilateral triangular arrangement between the listener and the two speakers in order to get the full effect. So maybe jump up some Yamaha DBR10's instead of the Alto. In terms of the other direction of using FRFR liveperformance style powered speakers, it's important to understand that you get what you pay for in terms of quality. Maybe Im just dense. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Awesome sound. Again, Yamaha quality/flexibility (and 10" vs 12") vs Alto price. I haven't played out in years, and while I cant say I never will again, I don't see it happening anytime soon. Although I've had a few people I know tell me to get the AX8, the UI of the Helix is just seems super intuitive. ok. I've made a little diagram of my room hoping that will help. That means that they'll have a "sweet spot" in terms of volume and listener position, and are best used vertically on poles. Setting everything at noon and letting it rip will not work, no matter what speakers you choose. Which will sound better? Im sure theyll both have great audio fidelity.

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