keller 32 foot extension ladder

2021/05/21

Early on I once set three lifts of staging-then 40' on top of that to access a spot.Now thats scary! Instead of getting 2 16 fts and 2 24 frs at least consider a different assortment like a 16,24,28 and 32------------- that gives you a LOT more versatility and you can usually still pair-em to run a pic plank just fine. is just as safe or safer than glass in certain situations. I think I want to buy four new ones. I've read plenty of spirited debates in the short time I've been here. But I've got to get an aluminum too 'cause those fg can wear you out pretty quick when you have to continually move them around.

You like the aluminum for the ease of movement. Today, Dale ( 220 lbs) me, (175 lbs) 24' 500 lb rated 16" pic, were hanging gutterpic is maybe 100lbs? Some roofers have had some nifty really heavy duty aluminum extensionladders that are also a tad wider than what is found at the box stores. With that line of thinking, I should consider buying a car without airbags. There are times when a 60' boom truck is not available and things need to be done-usually slate repairs-so if I knowing choose to do something risky I can not be cited for it if no employee is involved. - M.K. I would guess the chance of a fiberglass ladder failing due to uv damage to be the same or less than the chance of aluminum failing due to " metal fatigue". There is a reason they are cheap. he was 240..

I like your RS logo but this time of year I would expect some Pats signage. I'm sure that each and every one of us is capable of a moment's lapse. Yes it's true OSHA has no juristiction over whatever I do to myself. you are of course, entitled to make your business and safety decisions for yourself. My 24 footers are yellow Louisvilles from HD. I've only even seen a 60' ladder once in my life. Ok, so I get it that I was completely excluded from this conversation save for a passing remark about "chinese" junk gorilla ladders. give me an email sometime if ya want---- If we are compatible -------maybe we can pair up for a few things this spring . It was stored indoors, so rot was not an issue. I have a cheap Wal-mart version FIL gave me that I like, it is the kind with the fixed hooks to lock the rungs in when you extend it instead of the usual swinging hooks.

I sure am. Maybe I was a little rough on Stephen,but look at his response to Nikkiwood suggesting perhaps a different line of work. I know most people will never require a 60' ladder-I only use them occaisionally-but I'll never be able to use one of fiberglass because those who produce them want no part in making a ladder like that.It would be unsafe structurally-as someone said -chance of catastrofic failure. I wasn't in the mood to contemplate ladder purchases that day.As for wooden ladders, which originated the above purchase. I didn't give a hoot what it was, but I wasn't going to climb on old "rickety" again. I think "FG vs Alum" is the new "wormdrive vs sidewinder" . ( I have only done 2 churches---and they required nothing more than the 32 ft. either. I like Lynn ladders. So in summation,yes if all your work is close to the ground and possibly near power lines,then yes fiberglass is tremendous.But please don't lecture the rest of us who work up high on safety issues cause you're not qualified to speak on such matters. Thanks for your time. Anyone else doing that? Sooner or later someone will take a short cut when you're not looking. If you engrave your name in the side of a fiberglass ladder, it is junk and subject to a fine from OSHA. and [emailprotected]. Folded in half it's a nice stepladder. The three rungs above is to provide a hand hold which this device does nicely. Or is it 3 20' sections? LOL. Not exactly what the OP wanted, but I was recently at my parents' house and they needed a ladder, so I bought the Werner folding unit. 20' or 40'.. either way, hitting the ground is gonna suck. Another vote for Werner. As far as suppliers---too many to mention---but if you are anywhere near ohio---consider Ladders Unlimmited in cleveland----- I have bought from them several times and always been happy. Haz, we agree about one thing: I hate using the pics too and prefer to set up multiple ladders to jump around on. Edited 1/1/2006 8:11 pm ET by theslateman. If you are using people out of the hall you best have what they are used to on hand. imagine the logic that says" I am not gonna buy that demonstrably safer fiberglass ladder because MAYBE 10,15-20-30 years from now if I abuse it---it MIGHT have soaked up enough sunlight to become questionable------accept the electrocution hazard today to avoid the POSSIBLE uv problem 20 years from now???? I haven't done any slate since I moved from PA 12 yrs ago, gotta remember all tricks. My point was that alum is more rugged and safer from purely a structural standpoint.Apparently you don't use them with a pick up 32' or so.When you look down and see the belly that develops in a 40' fiberglass type 1A at that level of service you just migh S--t yourself.It's really scary and I'd never use them for that again. Those were probably sourced from a commercial ladder supplier. Put the fg where it belongs and it stays put until you move it. to me---the value of this forum is to share relevant experience------ so that folks going into a similar situation can benefit. I want to go watch. No problems at all. Awful lot of "alpha males" here. We have legitamit differences in what we prefer and our work is different.I was pointing out that Alum . I notice a lot of posts evolve from the OP's question-I don't think mine are off the mark in that respect. If we had to we would place the ladder very vertical. I have 2- 40',2-32' ,4-24' in fiberglass which I use for access lots of times,but I rarely use them with a 24' pick unless the ladders are only up a few rungs. rooferman---------where in ohio are you located? Just my subjective opinion. I have 6 of their ladders (three extensions, three steps, and a 12' stage). the one about alum ladders just taking off on you and skating along the wall or gutter. You were harnessed, right? I have had experience with only one 40' wooden extension ladder. I am glad he pointed that out because he illustrates very well what a trivial consideration that is . But I've also got no complaints with the 24' and 16' fiberglass 1A Werners I have either. How does this fg breakdown show up? Regarding the walk through,OSHA regulations require 3 rungs above the wall, right? I don't trust wooden ladders anymore.Look at the weight rating on the ladder. View Image, where I work the electric comes to the house on overhead wires. Have fun with the octagonal pool house-and post us some pics of that.

Thus I work from a plank quite often. how long do you expect a ladder to last anyhow?

so---if anything your 40ft high pick story is bordering on the irrelevant for me---and possibly the original poster. I have some fiberglass extension ladders,but by far more alum. The FG is more safe around power lines. 2) aluminum ladders are VERY slippery at the intersection of the side rails and house/gutter/fascia etc.-------- even if you are planning to tie the ladder off----- you still have to climb up it 1st. I've owned this ladder for about 20 years for residential use only. I dunno, I can carry it solo purty wellany way..I had my Stanley 20' alum from wallworld ( really light and quick to scoot around) and DAle had his 16' Louisville on grade above mine, witha broken rung and shovel handle drove thru it.. Not an OSHA type scene, so speaking of this thread with him, we TRIED to see if anything could "Give", we even BOTH got on one end ..low to ground of course NAda, zilch, both ladders are still fine, and so are we. The main thing coming out of all of this is to use equipment that is safe and you feel comfortable with. Go with Werner.

I just can't agree. you are going to intentionally use an obviously more dangerous item----because you THINK it will make you safer????????? groan. cost difference is absurdly small----and spread out over the life of the ladder---virtually non--existant. john sprung--- the pipe insulation might not be a bad idea--------- of course the ladder doesn't hit the same place on the house on every set up---- so there are trade offs with everything. Take both for $125. I wasn't doing gutter work but installing snow guards into a slate roof to keep avalanching snow and ice from hitting pedestrians or vehicles. Aside from electrical conductivity, why are you so adamant about fiberglass vs. aluminum?If they carry the same rating, aren't the two equally strong, sturdy, etc.? Interesting point about buying multiple lengths and doing a mix and match thing. Not having the airbags would force me drive more carefully. "It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts.". Got rid of the ones I had and try to buy Werner whenever possible. Yeah, feel more confident on the high FG ext. > . the reason Firefighters use alum-for strength concerns primarily. You mention several other points but the one that keeps coming up is the shock hazard.Let me ask you this, do you rely solely on a FG ladder for protection from the service or do you employ other means?Your point about the utility lineman is a little stretch, I think. you are not fishing in my pond are ya LOL. I agree that safety should be first priority on jobs at all times. Yer a better man than me.View Image. What type of brackets do you guys use with slate? Stay away from Keller if you are doing serious work as opposed to part time. Maybe it is bad logic, or maybe that illustrates how bad your logic can be when in the thick of a job that is potentially dangerous.If I had to choose between eliminating the grounding path or eliminating the contact with the conductor I will choose the latter every time. The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. saw to cut in roof vents etc.---- and who knows when there is gonna be a problem with that cord? I can confidently Sometimes you just don't get very far with it. Have also had good luck with the 18 foot Stanleys from Walmart. Just idle curiosity because I've only seen a few wooden ladders in all my short career at this.As for myself, I will always buy fiberglass and high rated as well. Those were heavier than fiberglass versions. Using ladder jacks over 20' is an OSHA violation. Another shop had plenty of wooden stepladders. Stephen,Would it be accurate to state that your primary concern with AL ladders is their conductivity?

One of the 60's is older and both sections are raised in unison when you pull the rope.

Actually, I think Keller is a sub-brand of werner. He doesn't seem to need my 28ft or my 32 ft.-----which I can't quite picture----- but maybe he operates in an area dominated by ranches and capes???? It seems like the wind blows and you're straightening the ladder. that's perfectly fair Jon---no problem with that. now---here----in most jurisdictions---- if we are siding a house it's required to have one permit for the siding---and to have a licensed electrician pull aSECOND permit . If I know we will have work around the service drop then I prefer to call the power company and have them either protect or remove the conductors in question.A FG ladder is not 100% safe, it just elminates some of the risk. ---also--- I don't know about your application---but here any roof requiring a hookladder is much less of a shock hazard being ABOVE the electric lines---and the hook ladder NOT extending from roof to ground. Copyright 2008-2022 PicClick Inc. All Rights Reserved. Werner makes excellent "dogs" .If your rungs are the same width then they should be able to work. ButI still think we all have the right to talk about safety procudures. I agree with almost every other reason you wrote about, but I think both deserve merit. Yet in the same post you admit to using ladderjacks on 24', 32' and 40' ladders. Keller 32" aluminum extension ladder Type I Industrial Model 4032. While you can be as careful as abomb tech in handling your ladder around live wires, you can't always control how your guys work every second of every day. I work alone and no employees. When fully extended the glass ones I have which are 1A show more deflection than 1A alum. This is a dialog window which overlays the main content of the page. I have both Werner and Keller 8'ladders and have compared them side by side including the thickness of the FG. You can borrow one of my aluminum 60's if you promise to return it in the same condition. Get an overview of the process of creating a traditional-style fireplace that burns well and meets current building codes from experienced mason Mike Mehaffey. all that being said------- I have encountered many roofs that I would decline---if required to work from aluminum ladders, I have yet to meet one I would decline if required to work from fiberglass. also 3 stepladders, cuprum, davidson,husky, all the ladders are either typeI or type IA and I would have no hesitation in recommending or useing ANY of 'em----with the exception of the type I Davidson 8 ft. step ladder which is a piece of junk---the feet have never set properly. -- maybe this time without the vitriol? You're right it's a violation to have an employee working as you suggest,but as a sole proprietor OSHA can not cite me for doing it.I do a lot of things in my slate work that I wouldn't consider asking an employee to do. two items made by http://www.ladderinnovations.com one a pass thru attachment to the top of the ladder that gives you something to hold on to as you get off the top-instead of having to step around it.Another is a clever dolly to use to carry ladders while on site. But definitely ,DEFINITELY go with the fiberglass--------- If fiberglass ladders were not available now I would STILL prefer wood over aluminum as I started out on wood and will NOT use aluminum. I know Little Giant has 1AA ladders-and I have a Louisville 6' stepladder that is a 1AA. is that right? 2022 The Taunton Press, Inc. All rights reserved. It only takes a momentary lapse of judgement for an accident occur. I don't know what Grant has planned for roof brackets yet, have not even seen the job yet. the aluminum ladders are horifically noisyclang,bang schmang EVERY time you go up or down, Every time you set up or break down for the day---every foot you drive home rattle bang on the top of the truck. And you think some of us are working unsafely! See More. High amount watching. the rails are VERY slippery---and will slide sideways along the gutter or fascia at light speed given the slightest chance. We all value different qualities and attributes differently--- I just don't place that high of a value on $50 for instance-------- the other rationales?---well as I said earlier--fiberglas posses some positive qualities I feel strongly outweigh very minor negative possibilities.

1A fiberglass. One other excellent looking item by http://www.stabiladder.comis a new and improved leg leveling device which doesn't require bolting to the leg but looks really rugged and strong. And cheaper.

and------ now-adays I take a cordless saw up top when required--------- but for most of my career I was hauling a long extension cord up the ladder behind a circ. I guess that if you are used to heavy wood ladders glass would not be a shock. how long did it take for them to rot? I know for a fact that I couldn't lift one! I have also read that FG will deteriorate from exposure to UV rays.Now I have converted to AL for extension. As for the issue of aluminum sliding against the building, why not put something on it to prevent that -- slit rubber hose, gaffer's tape, something like that? It's just the nature of the beast with construction. offbrand---maybe Cuprum? Rose, Expert insights on techniques and principles. pick onto this situation. ones. I am useing a 24ft. They get me up where I need to be and stand up pretty good to jobsite abuse. I'm glad you enjoy my posts. They're.. well. they're ladders. Glass step ladders are horrible even on flat decks.

I don't know if it's because you always see FG on utility and municipial trucks (which typically look decent and professional) or what but I think the FG does have an edge there. I normally kept a 32' alumimnum ladder at home and used it once or twice a year. I would bet their #1 goal each and every day is not end up looking like chicken fried steak from contacting a 7200 volt load. It will be on a sticker on the side.

Either way you're looking at a lot of weight. Hey, what do I know? I've never heard that before, and that's why I'm asking. If ignorance is bliss why aren't more people. That,but also wood has more friction than either other material but glass is more slick than aluminum. I dunno I have both Werner 28 in FG and alum. Keller ladders are junk. Excellence is its own reward! I forget the name, but it's the one that has one pair of knuckles like a Little Giant but then extension legs instead of the folding legs.If I only had one ladder, I think this is what I'd get -- not too heavy, but the longer unit (there are two sizes) can extend up to about 16 feet (which is to say equivalent to about an 18-foot extension ladder). Even to the most careful of us. "we even BOTH got on one end ..low to ground of course"But that is not worse case.If you want to try it them have them at full extension and then try this in the middle of the ladder.And of course there is some safety margin built in. Around here (Ohio) I see fiberglass on jobsites almost exclusively. I can see you are fervent about your beliefs so I won't be bothered to try to sway your thinking-just a couple points to ponder. ******************************************************** I think that trumps your points #1 & #2 LOL, BTW------- regaurding the 3 stage ladder---------- I would say that is an ALMOST irrelevant consideration as a 3 stage ladder is a considerable rareity-------------- pretty much entirely un-needed for just about anybody on this forum, In fact---in 18-20 years I have only had to access one roof I couldn't work from a 32 ft. ladder ( A press box on top of a high school football stadium). 250 lb duty rating.Also selling a Werner 16' multi purpose folding ladder Type I Industrial Model M1-8-16 for $79. When I work with help-yes we pipe stage with full alum. 15+ items sold. The AL are lighter and cheaper. Wood ladders grip the sides of the houses much better for me and I can lean sideways (unless I'm leaned up against Tyvek) on them a lot farther than I can with fiberglass. 0% negative feedback. Your other post about debate on the glass vs. alum.

Exposure to UV does damage a fiberglass ladder. Thanks for the offer of the O'Douls my drink of choice.I'm having one now as I cook supper. If roofing andplanksare in your future, then I would not buy anything but a type 1A or 1AA ladder (red fiberglass). See what I mean? The glass ladders are just too twisty for my tastes. Ships to: US, I can't really agree with your position either. Unlike aluminum, composite materials like fiberglass fail catastrophically- it will not bend and give a few seconds of warning. I like them both. God bless ya up there dude. BTW, we tried to never lean againt the gutter for anything if at all possible. And frankly---it's a 2 man pick--- I hate it---and prefer just working from the ladder as it's generally more work to set up the picthan to move the ladder a few times. The fiber glass 32 footer is HEAVY!!! Sumptin about that last fifteen yrsmakesa difference. I am the original poster on this topic. Pipe insulation that is split works well too. 250 lb duty rating.Also selling a Werner 16' multi purpose folding ladder Type I Industrial Model M1-8-16 for $79. Not from normal wear and tear, but from employee abuse. So-------- on essentially every house I work-------a ladder is going to be set up immediately adjacent the main electric line leading to the meter--------and in fact the ladder will usually be set up straddling the line. This shows a job I worked on today installing snow guards. That is your key to what you will pay and what you are paying for. I'm currently getting torn a new one in another thread right now, so it's nice to hear that someone appreciates what I've got to say. LOL. Probably need heavy stuff if doing roofing. My latest issue of a roofing publication had a good article on ladder innovations,some new ideas for more function from the age old units. We have a wooden 12' and my partner keeps me from taking the saw to old rickety, so we still have that too. I would guess that there is not enough contact difference among the three. I needed to be close to the roof edge to install these items and didn't want the arms of the stabilizer impeding my being able to remove the three slates needed for the retrofit install for each guard. Common sense rules..at MY house, that is why y'all saw one of each when I first tore out the west wall..I put the orange nearest the wires..geeze. Then it is junk. I do not find 16' or 24' ladders to be partiularly heavy. i've always used Lynn and Werner ladders. I would expect most here to be familiar with Werner. The pick you use is Aluminum I suppose for your roof work,resting on two fiberglass ladders with alum . FWIW, I happened to be looking at extension ladders while in HD yesterday waiting for them to bring a vanity up to the front of the store for me. Walter, I just want to make a point. dieselpig mentioned something about a osha reg regaurding 20 ft on the pick, I wasn't aware of that---- but usually I would set a pick so that the bottom edge of the roof hits me right about the gut level----------- so---in general I doubt the pick is usually over 20 ft high---never measured. BTW walter--------- the ladders under discussion by the original poster were 16 ft and 24 ft.-------- in addition to those I reported on my experiences with 28 ft and 32 ft. ladder jacks. But I don't think that disqualifies someone from pointing out a safety hazard or pointer. 2x4 backrails and harness in as required-no one wants to see the Feds show up. For instance, you're giving Stephen a hard time for his set-up near live wires. at all times which is just your opinion ,not fact. 2 How many Fire Depts in the country use fiberglass ladders as there means of accessing burning buildings? "I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. In my judgement the larger the crew the more idiot proof things have to be. Well, I am laid up at the moment..badly sprained my ankle this weekend ( at home) and I guess we start the slate later in the week. I tried to play nice Walter---but ya just had to push me LOL, Now---lemme buy ya a beer or the beverage of your choice. "It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts.". RE: UV rays------ a consideration with some SMALL basis in fact. You kept espousing glass as superior to alum. Next we are looking into little boxing gloves. I had some alum ladders in my arsonal but I did not like them much except at set-up or tear down time. the electrician has to pull the permit---then pull the meter so the house can be sided benind the meter---then re-install--- then call for inspection. and climb with more confidence. We also have a Keller 24' extension ladder that we bought at Sam's. Maybe if I go with alum nobody will steal them!! I was really kind of suprised to see people here mentioning really trivial objections to fiberglass---------- then I noticed that most of 'em objecting------don't really use extension ladders much anyhow----------------------- so who cares what they think ? 3) fiberglass behaves in a comfortable, predictable, flexible fashion--------- much like a quality wood ladder----------- aluminum ,on the other hand--is rigid and tends to move in sudden, unexpected, jerky little, terrifying motions. And we all have the right to dispute them. Maybe a local could just fabricate a spring for you. DK. But I most always felt safe. however---to be fair I think a hook ladder should be classed less as a ladder---and more like a item of stageing like a pick plank---- mine specifically is a dedicated hook------------it's one of the ones used to wallpaper billboards-------and actually--- I see THOSE being fiberglass now-adays as well.---- so if I were buying one today---it would certainly be fiberglass. The Kellers I've tried feel like climbing a rope ladder. I have found fiberglass to be heavier than aluminum and lighter than wood. and---no offense---but your rationale is like saying you prefer to work with dull saw blades because they they keep the probability of kickback in the front of your mind.

useing the fiberglass now exclusively---- it's obvious REALbenefits, far.Far, FAR outweigh the few, theoretical---and comparitively minor drawbacks you are concerned about. LOL. Ican't tell the difference and their is a sticker on the Keller made by Werner. I'm going to send it to you as a Shutterfly album.I think I've got those pics there and not on my hard drive.Once they're in a Shutterfly album I can't retrieve them to resize and post them here. I actually use ladder mits on all my FIBERGLASS ladders(LOL)------ but even the mitts can have a downside----- ya got a clean 'em or replace em periodically cause they will pick up this slippery chalky coating from aluminum siding etc. I needed extension ladders, but I do not use them every day, so I bought them instead of the super heavy duty redones. I have bought ladder racks for 2 different trucks there and any number of ladders, pic's, jacks etc. Unless of course you're harnessed in as well. Sorry if I ruffled your feathers,but you and Nikkiwood started discussing strength and other topics way back in this thread-and my interjections were related to those topics not whatever kind of smack you called it. New job today a 40' ladder won't reach, so we build scaffold in the AM.

Sitemap 28

- le creuset enameled cast iron safe

preserved eucalyptus branches