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if ($(#visitor_counter_visitors).length) { You can use your titan pull up bar. Contact Thank you for the great information on your blog. Being as its attached to the wall, that might not matter as much as on a freestanding rack where theres more potential wobble. Am I being foolish by attempting this? Several things on the page are odd. Looks like they only have that one model that is spaced far from the wall and therefore cant fold inwards compactly like some others. (They do offer a couple of flying pull-up bars, but those designs are a) permanent, not removable, and b) would add far too much height to be able to fit in my garage with a 100 high ceiling. David, do you think the Rogue stringers would be compatible with the Rep rack. Stringer OptionIf I were in the market for a rack like this, the lack of a stringer on the other models is the dealbreaker. Do any of these folding racks offer a Dip attachment? We sometimes make the mistake of thinking Rogue comes up with all this new stuff, but often they just popularize an existing idea by putting their huge market share behind it. Yea, thats why im leaning toward it. dickssportinggoods One person told me he put on 24 spotter arms on his Titan X-3 folding rack and does rack pulls on it.

And I didnt realize the 33 would make the width 49gross. This makes them a little smaller than 23 and 33, respectively. In 2014 PRx Performance invented and patented this rack. Behold! Titan cuts corners with design to lower the price. Im set on getting Rogue Fitness but would like to know their newest model. From what I can figure, I will need to drill a couple holes through the top of the 21.5 arm so that the pulley cable can fit through. Or their Monster Lite Matador will fit their 3x3. Rogues 33 racks are 49 wide, which makes it a tighter fit for your bar than 48 or 47 wide racks. UHMW lined J-cups and feet. I have the t-3 21.5 but need to get stringers. I dont know anything about the quality of their products, and sometimes the details can make a big difference in how everything fits together and moves as expected. If you visualize it, the sides will overlap, so maybe 8 or so from the wall? var r = Math.floor(Math.random() * (max min + 1)) + min; The 12-gauge 2.3 square tubing is pretty light duty. Rogue RML-3W Fold Back Wall Mount Rack vs the PRX Profile with Pull up Bar. Happy New Year. Got the T-3 rack set up with Rogue stringers, but since Titan is a 50 width and Rogue is a 48 standard, the Titan pull up bar does not quite fit. I think they mainly realized the orange color didnt fit everyones decor. I see they make a good number of attachments. If you think about it: first swing one side inwards, lets say the left side just for this example. min = Math.ceil(min); Michael, that is correct, the Rogue attachments wont fit. Press J to jump to the feed. The 21.5 gives you enough room for squats, bench presses, and most any other racks exercises, giving enough room for your feet, head, and bench, as appropriate. Some specs given on their site say 50 width, but that includes things like brackets or feet. Again I might not need it but I would want the flexibility. If you like working with wood, this might be a non-issue for you. 3 problems with even decent portable squat stands like the above: So its clear that we needed a totally different solution to save on space. Unlike the 23 Infinity racks, Rogue wont be moving away from the Monster Lite racks for the foreseeable future, so youll have good compatibility moving forward. They do make a few different pull-up bars, but nothing which could be easily pinned into place which helps to provide more space from the wall. max = Math.floor(max); They clearly copied the Rogue stringer and include it in the price. The shared features among most ofthese racks are: This basic idea was pioneered by PRx Performance in 2014, and backed by Shark Tank businessman and investor Kevin OLeary in 2016. Pull Up Bar Get the Kipping Bar if you Can3 options None, regular, or extruded 36 from the wall for kipping pullups. No need to go to the lumber store and pick up and cut some 26 boards to use as backplates. The feet stick out partially in your way, causing a trip hazard. The left sides vertical post is now maybe 1-2 from the right sides hinge point, and normally the inner aspect of the right side would lay (nearly) flat to the wall, if the left side that you just finished folding in werent already in the way. Laser-cut numbers, starting from the bottom of the bench press area and going all the way up. Like Rogue, you can leave the J cups in place if youre folding at least one side outward. I think the new one is pretty much the same. I bought a Rogue RML-3W with the 21.5 arms last summer and have been building my garage gym around it ever since. Great info to know about the Rogue stringers working with the T3. Wouldnt the spacing on the Rogue Stringer where you mount the rack to the stringer be too narrow and create an angle when you open it up to connect the pull-up bar? A traditional power rack, or even an open-ended squat rack, takes up a painful amount of space. Ill have to look into it more! You stated that the Rouge RML is 40.5 deep doesnt fold in neatly to the wall and will overlap unless you fold them one in and one out, which takes up more wall space.. I was curious about the Ethos line, looked like a step up in quality from the Fitness Gear line. (If the doors in your home had a hinge point going through the middle of the door, youd hear a crunch anytime you opened a door more than 90. Thanks David. Get at least the regular. The main issue with the ~21 deep racks is they might restrict the exercises you can do.

Any input or observations on whether the Rogue stringers would work with a Titan X-3? I bought mine from the boneyard, so it ended up being $114 shipped including the Infinity sockets. To sum up, this rack was a good idea at the time, but for the price you can get a more modern design, which I go over in the other brands below. For most of us thats not really an issue, as we dont need to save space that high. If it were possible to easily dislocate/disassemble the right sides hinge point, then yes, youd be able to lay the right side flat against/overtop of the left side, for the estimated net distance from the wall of 8. I was ok with bending my knees. Sometimes companies have a new revision after its been out of stock for months.

One alternative approach Ive considered is to get a pull-up bar attachment which adds some distance from the wall, something which supplements or replaces the existing pull-up bar of this rig. Anyway, good thoughts, Ill have to add this to the article in the next update! David founded Adamant Barbell in 2007 and Two Rep Cave in 2018. Around 101 for the 40.5 one. Knurling.subjective but personal decision. Above is a test on the old orange version of the rack. http://bit.ly/2peFX1j var minTime = 24; https://www.tworepcave.com/3006/power-rack-attachments-compatibility-master-list/#comment-8606. Makes sense that they are actually in the higher part of the price range. Rogue is getting away from its 23 racks and will likely discontinue them at some point. Pull Up BarMax height 87, adjustable down via pop pins. They have other marks on the uprights tohelp you put the two bar catches at the same height and not have to eyeball it too hard. It says above that the Rogue Stringers work for the Titan T3 but Im wondering how that is possible if the T3 is wider than the Rogue racks? A power rack encloses the bar on both sides and has safety bars.

Thank you for the details! But I digress.). Design and Construction:2x3 11-gauge steel. However, a positive for Rogue is you have up/down ability in the hinge to accommodate garage slope, so its a nicer angle.

I just received rogue stringers and titan t-3 folding. You have to carefully set them the right 48distance apart each time, and aligned properly. I am in the market, and these are the things I could think of for my situation.

Hmm, something isnt right, mine folds completely flat and i can use the original pull up bar. Also, if you have J-cups and Pull up bars installed, you will need to take all of this off. The stringers help you in two ways: Titan T-3 and X-3 folding racks are their 23 and 33 racks. var randomlyValue=; Even then, no guarantee the screws wont still rip out. If you try to move the blocks out of the way as much as possible then it gets dicey. But its in the way now. Perfectly spaced mounting holes for the rack so that installation is way easier. 505 lb is beyond the limit, as you can see in the below IG video where a screw ripped out of the stringer. Pull Up Bar: The pull up bar can adjust from 70-88 from the floor (510 74). If you dont / wont us the pull up bar is the Titan for cost saving purposes able to just move the to fixtures in 2 inchs when installing to eliminate that awkward 50 inch width. My biggest need for going with the 41.5 tubing is to provide more room for kipping pull-ups. The requirement of the garage gym dictates a foldable rack however which typically arent as tall. Titan for example does ok with some things, but this rack needs to be all perfectly aligned so that you can install it with nothing weird going on in its stability, connections, and fold-up procedure. Most of those things are personal preference and buying it as my first rack I didn't know what to expect. I don't know about other racks. These issues force me to have the opinion that Rep is not the best choice here. Do you have any opinion on the RML-90SLIM by any chance? Keep up your great articles David! Any preference if the prices are almost the same? These are valuable for getting your J-cups or safety arms set at the right height.

Also, just for information to others who attempt this, the rack folds somewhat on top of each other due to the extra 2 in length on the Titan rack. For more space for dynamic pull up movements, you will want the 41.5 deep. UHMW lined cups and feet, quick attach pins, 1.25 pull up bar, etc. If you spec out a 3x3 rack with multi-grip crossbar, spotter arms & pin/pipe safeties your almost at $1000 --- and you haven't factored delivery costs yet. I dont remember if the T3 or the stringers had the bolts needed but one or the other has them. If the last 1 inch hole is too low for you, why wouldn't you use the next higher up hole? I dont know about the trolley arms, but as far as what you already have in hand, just consider every angle and movement thats going to happen for different exercises or moving parts between exercises, and it will probably all work. At first glance its the only folding rack Ive seen thats a full power rack. They kind of priced themselves out of the market. Rep is known for making good equipment, nearly on par with Rogues quality and attention to detail, not cutting corners, and at a lower price. The only one I can think of offhand that is designed to fit into a tight space like this is the BodyCraft F320, the way the seat slides back as the backrest inclines. Thanks in advance, sorry for all the questions. var plus = [10, 20, 15]; The Rogue folding rack with the 21.5 depth is plenty for incline bench press. Rogue sells more of these types of units than anybody else, and in their own factory in Columbus, OH, while other companies outsource to China and arent able to unpackage and inspect most of the units. The front face of the uprights are a mere 14 from the wall.

Basically answered the questions I had trying to build out my space constrained garage gym. They can wobble a little under loads. Wow, you were not kidding about getting those in the outer holes of the two stringers. I see what youre saying. minQty = Math.ceil(minQty); A folding squat rack that installs securely against the wall, folds out with the feet touching the floor for support, and folds back up against the wall for storage. Rep is the only manufacturer to offer a folding rack in a 33 only model. The only other negative thing to say is the ethos rolling plate holder only has 2 locking wheels which makes the whole unit jerk around when loading and unloading the weigh plates. You get what you pay for and Rogue is pure quality. minTime = Math.ceil(minTime); http://bit.ly/2qMHOMa I am not sure what you meant by that. Laser-Cut NumbersOne significant addition over Rogue is their laser-cut numbers, starting from the bottom of the bench press area and going all the way up. Equipment Guides (I feel like Im trying to reengineer the design here. Two Rep Cave Gym Equipment Guides and Reviews, Power Rack Attachments & Compatibility List, Discounts for First Responders, Military and Veterans, Which Rogue Power Rack Should You Buy? Like the Titan and Fringe models, be conscious of what height youre installing the top horizontal tubing against the uprights, because it will get in the way of your desired pull up bar height if you arent careful. Are there are other fold down squat racks out there, or do they have a monopoly? As I recall, some manufacturers tend to prohibit them or limit their length to 6-12 similar to squat stands. It can be installed either in a garage or in a room of your home. The video a few paragraphs below shows the foldingmechanism pretty well. It will feel more solid than a folding rack because it has no moving parts. PriceGreat price, especially for what you get. For best results, the hinge point would probably need to be roughly the distance equivalent to the thickness of the tubing. The brackets for rack are too wide for the holes on the stringers. Not so fast. Have you figured out the best solution? Privacy Policy The above shows why. They cant quite meet Rogues quality, because their equipment is made in China and subject to spot inspections when they get them instead of constant inspection of each piece by their own employees.

Attachment OptionsBeing as this is an Monster Lite rack, Rogues Monster Lite attachments will fit this rack. Can you no longer use the included Titan pull up bar when you do use the Rogue stringers? I have ordered the stringers (not here yet) and cant get a detailed view on how the Titan rack would mount to them. Now youve got something closer in design to how the doors in your home work, ie, when you fold the right side inwards over the left side, it would create a bit more room near the apex of the angle. var minQty = 1; Color OptionsWhile the RML-3W is the classic Rogue matte black, the RML-3WC version has powder coating in a bunch of color choices, even a satin clear coat that Id love to see close up. Then pull4 pins from the rack hinges and fold both arms against the wall. Any thoughts on this folding rack? (2022), Best Budget Olympic Barbell Under $200 (2022), FringeSport Mini Farmers Walk Handles Review, Rep Fitness Rubber Hex Dumbbell Set 5-100 lb with Racks Review, Rogue Adjustable Bench 2.0 and Legend 3-Way Bench Review, Assault Airbike Review: Why It Destroys Traditional Exercise Bikes, Rogue Bella Bar Review The Premier Womens Bar. Accommodating Floor SlopeAs Johnny Wild pointed out in the comments, the Rogue bracket design has some wiggle to it, which is not sloppy design but is actually helpful for allowing you to lift and drop the sides of the rack as you fold it into place, and to accommodate the approximately 1/4 to 1/2 slope in a garage. there are a ton of side folding squat racks out there, but only PRX has the folding down version. ), Another design to consider (one which Rogue isnt offering, but bear with me on this thought experiment) would be if one side (lets say the right side, to continue the example) had a hinge point which was mounted to the side (left side) of the 41.5 tube, rather than going through the center of it. I bet its never zero! Like certain other designs of racks, wall mounted squat racks are not made to fully handle loads that can be placed on spotter arms hanging off the front. I have the Vulcan adjustable bench and it works perfect. At least its all Rogue parts, so you arent dealing with bad fitting attachments on top of this! It's just a preference thing. Thats some dishonest marketing right there. It looks like the T-3 changed some over time. Their product descriptiontells you the whole unit is 52 wide, but theyre including the brackets in that. var maxQty = 3; Hoping to get the Rogue, but if it doesnt fit, theres no point. Folding MechanismTo fold it away, you first remove the 2 pins above and pull off the pull up bar. I like the 47 width for reracking the bar. No chance of doing incline bench with this unless you have something like the BodyCraft F320 bench that slides back for incline. You will be added to our email list. Reps folding rack is nearly an exact copy of Rogues. They also have the 23 R-3W still.

The Rogue site is difficult to compare their own models so this was helpful. Since the fringe is 2.5 x 2.5, would it be incompatible with the accessories from titan or rogue? That must be an oversight by Titan. Read on or skipto my final recommendation at the bottom of this post. Rogues Infinity Matador dip attachment will fit their 2x3 rack above. Rogue has 4 pins that you need to put in to lock and take it off to unlock. First off thanks so much for the great info. Folding Mechanism: Just like Rogue. Thank you for the very informative site! Yeah I imagine something interesting has happened with that a few times and just hasnt been caught on video yet, other than the Prx rack test. var myRandom = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5,10, -1, -2, -3, -4, -5]; If youll be putting in rubber flooring, be sure to get that in before you install this. Near as I can figure, theres enough space from the wall to give you head room for flat bench presses or low bar back squats, by just a couple inches. You need to buy some boards at the lumber store. Anyway, those are my thoughts! Thats strong enough to do the job but its not gonna feel as solid as the others. Except in this context, I dont think Rogue makes one. Once you include shipping, the prices are almost identical for the Rogue RML-3W Fold Back Wall Mount Rack vs the PRX Profile with Pull up Bar. If you want a choice of (currently) 11 colors, the RML-3WC is the color-option version of the RML-3W, at about a $100 premium. The RML-3W has 33 tubing. You have to look in the Power Racks category, not in Squat Stands or Wallmounts where you would expect them. I also purchased the air bike. I think one allowed an 18 and no one recommended 24. Definitely a bigger footprint. The stringer (the piece against the wall) should be designed better so it would take more screws and thus handle more weight. A subreddit devoted to working out at home. The lack of a stringer option hurts a bit. That could be a problem with some benches for sure, especially at the higher incline positions. I bet they figured the same thing. before I attempt to install all of this? Sounds like Rogue wins for customer service too. Add the overall width plus the depth and that should give you a pretty good idea. They arent there to look cool. In 2016 they aired on ABCs Shark Tank, a show for entrepreneurs to pitch to a panel ofinvestors. Seems like this would be true of all racks and i assume you'd want a little bit of clearance so that you're not loading it 3"inches off the ground and parallel to floor. Should be the same, no? Its just odd and I have seen few videos where they used Spotter arms holes for some attachments. Should I just eat it and buy the RML-390C? Otherwise, not a big deal. Some appropriate ones would be the landmine base, rope anchor, and many more. Its hard for a new company to be able to compete on price without cutting a lot of corners. Featured Gyms. That particular rack is the only one compact against the wall like that, other than the folding racks. So just quickly, I read that the Rogue stringer will fit the titan rack. Too bad they missed a stringer option. (Imagine the left sides post rubbing the paint off the right sides 41.5 bar somewhere close to where the right sides hinge point is, long before youre able to swing the right side anywhere approaching a satisfactorily closed position.). Thanks. Depth OptionsChoose from a 9 deep, 21.5 deep or 41.5 deep option that you select on the product page. The locking wheels also feel cheap, youd expect better locking mechanism for $200 price tag. I also am skeptical of the x sold in the last 24 hours ticker.

Anyway, the Slim Rack might work even better than a folding rack for you, if you dont mind being close to the wall and you dont need a rack that folds tighter against the wall to be out of the way. var min = 25; Ethos is not even close to Rogue brand pricing. Ive been curious. I assume he does it as close to the uprights as he can, or at least I would. Ill have to take a closer look when its back in stock.

The hole spacing is therefore similar to Westside but not Westside compatible. Higher than that they are spaced 2, which is fine for squats or overhead presses. I dont know their hole sizing, for compatibility with other rack attachments, and whether its really 33 tubing or a ways off like Titan due to being made to mm sizing. The 41.5 deep doesnt fold in neatly to the wall and will overlap unless you fold them one in and one out, which takes up more wall space. Ive been looking at the RML-90SLIM rack a bit. With garage floor slopes, that could be another problem. Yeah I knew it before. Very nice investigative work! Again, Ethos makes their own landmine attachments. You will certainly save money by putting in your own wood stringers, as shown below. All of those options are made in America and support small businesses. I think the gas shock design is patented. TL;DR its a problem unless the product is redesigned. Ive determined that the 14 gives you enough head room from the wall to allow for back squats and for flat bench presses, assuming that your benchs feet dont stick out past the bench pad, with just a few inches of head clearance from the wall. If you have the wall space available where you can fold at least one side outwards, you wont have to remove the J cups. Some adjustable benches have feet or wheels that will stick out too far behind you in the incline position, preventing you from getting your body position as far back as you need to. The major incompatibility to watch out for are racks that have smaller than 1 holes. Keep in mind the kipping bar does not fold back itself, so its going to be sticking out 12 from the wall as you fold the rack in. Imagine that. Hmm.) That was smart of them to do this, while Fringe and Titan insist on having a unique size and only hurting themselves. Besides Kabuki's videos, the co founder being a metallurgist or, I can confirm the Titan T3 Spotter Arms do work with the, installation takes skill unless you get the stringer, 1 year return policy and 30 day free return shipping. Doing this before and after workout could become a *chore* if youre also vertically challenged (at least for the top ones). Or within 30 days and theyll even pay return shipping.