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Ive tried to like C&J and I still have one pair that I wear from time to time, but I have never found a C&J last that is comfortable for me. Amazon has long know this equation, which is why one click ordering is their goal, as well as a massive investment in their logistics (one day delivery), as well as inventory management to ensure the customer gets what they want, when they want it. FREE shipping, ad by DressedRetro Do you think they are worth the price in a world with TLB, Carlos Santos, and the like? From shop SecondFirst, $360.34

Well made shoes, but not a comfy fit if you have a wider foot like mine. I was going to raise this question. I respect that C&J is well-made, that they are a good value, that they offer a wide range of styles, and that they are widely available.

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In 2020 alone, purchases on Etsy generated nearly $4 billion in income for small businesses. Ive used Ben Silver in the US for years for C&J especially country and casual styles. I love my C&J shoes and boots. Original Price $99.00 Ten years thinking about it, a year to set it up and endless reasons for not putting the customer first. It was a great comment, nice to be able to include personal thoughts like that. In my experience rubber soles last longer than leather ones. Ive seen a review here of the artista line but I see myself more drawn to the main line which has more derbies (they accomodate better to my high instep). But I think many loyal customers dont care that much about it.

I have Edward Green but I dont think they are worth the extra money now even at EG sale prices.

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Would love to see a who advertises with us page. When I arranged to interview James Fox, their head of marketing, it turned out that the award was oddly well-timed. That might have been accelerated by the pandemic, but its nothing new. How do you guys think the TLB main line fares vs Carmina/ Carlos Santos?

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I much prefer the smaller store towards the end of Jermyn Street and invariably go in there to be led by the excellent team, with only a vague idea of what I might want.

The newer so called City rubber soles are probably best during the rest of the year, especially on rainy days.

However most handgrade lasts are chisel / square toes, which is less to my taste, so choice is limited (Im yet to try the MTO route) in this range. SecondFirst

By the way, I really like the good questions in this interview. The reason we dont want to offer a trainer is simple, we have absolutely no expertise in that market. Just dont buy a designer brand, like Churchs is now.

Even with a perfect inventory system it would not be clear which shoes are shippable and which are not. And indeed G&Gs more recent classic line is not. Other issues are wrong sizes or styles going back in shoe boxes after a customer has tried on 6 pairs while the shop is busy so the stock doesnt match. Weve now increased production of those made-to-order shoes that are in our stores, so theyre all available online as well. And thank you to all your readers for voting us their favourite shoe brand.

I dont like many of the C&J lasts (a little too flashy and pointy), but as a company their sometimes vaguely dated approach to business is very charming certainly more appealing than another hyper-polished LVMH brand or the usual Pitti-oriented influencer BS. I would be very interested to see in which aspects the shoes from Japan and France / Belgium are different from the standard range. I get the feeling theyre more glacial in nature and wont consider that seismic changes could be afoot until a few more years evidence. And the artisan is always my personal choice, because not enough people have tried enough artisans in common.

and compare that experience to almost any other retailer. The process is not easily automated. PS: OK, I think weve successfully pulled apart that thorn bush, and hopefully explained it to readers. Permanent Style is the UK authority on classic and luxury menswear.

That would set them a little apart amongst most of the other goodyear welted companies that have arisen during the last 10 years. ScruffyJays

We use them all the time, and the shoemakers will already do so for imports from outside the EU, such as exotics from Asia and the US, and cordovan from the US.

Fine. I also disagree on the generic point. I am worried this will really put great UK brands such as C&J at a disadvantage for quite some time.

Here, have a look at the multitude of sections and subsections: https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/sections.

I have been offered the opportunity to have any of the shoes made to fit me, but at a cost that doesnt sit well at all, I would be getting the same 600 pair of shoes as anyone else, but paying three or four times that for them.

Not out of doubts of your impartiality but more because I have never seen some of the names (e.g. 2) the so-called Global Talent Scheme, which is open only to researchers employed by research and academic institutions, some artists, some fashion designers, some highly skilled people in digital technology, or top CEOs. Ad from shop ArchivioLimited I wonder if luxury / quality brands will pull away from outside the EU / UK manufacture due to the apparent post Brexit import / exit hassles with non EU products?

A lot of people have been at this company a long time, and that leads to institutionalisation.

Look forward to doing so again in 2021.

The leading British website for tailoring, luxury and men's style. In the past, it seemed like you heavily took the readers vote into account but ultimately decided yourself, or perhaps with some other judges.

It would also be logistically difficult to sell the shops stock on the website. In the shape of the last, and in the models kept in stock in the shops.

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Honestly, Ive ordered from Australia via their current system of emailing and thought it was fine. I noticed nobody evoked the runner-ups in the comments yet. modolivintage It would be quite a niche request to ask you to make that comparison, but Id guess many readers have done so. I think were helped by the fact that the Crocketts customer is pretty intelligent, and worldly. I`m a C&J customer for decades and the customer service at their retail shops were always great. They may well face higher costs because of the paperwork required to import raw materials (such as the skins they use) from the EU. PS: I know thats common with brands, and yet it can still be confusing. And our success as a business means we can afford to take our time, even if our retail has effectively been closed for 80% of the past year.

Thanks, No, Im afraid not Im not chasing them either, youll have to ask them for news I think. I understand its the direction of how things are going, but with these gains theres also incremental losses to how special a product or brand is.

Good news! PS: That must have made all the changes youve had to make in the past year - from Covid, from Brexit - particularly difficult. My overall impression is that their business mindset is stuck somewhere around 1954. Interesting point on tradesmen setting up here. For example Barneys Japan often orders quite unusual MTO shoes - they have their own taste, and they need to stand out in what is a pretty crowded marketplace for Crockett in Tokyo. The smaller stores in Jermyn St and the Royal Exchange are brilliant service second to none.

It also says on the C&J website that the 367 last was originally developed for the Japanese market, and I have tried on pairs in these too.

I agree with you Alex that theres less of a reason to go for a leather sole. Still, a lot of them are still relatively formal compared to the avalanche of near-disposal sneakers now being worn. loake pediwear ghillie Found something you love but want to make it even more uniquely you?

I also found discussion of the Dainite and City Sole interesting and hadnt previously considered that the standard Dainite might not be ideal for town. PS: But you also sell slippers, and driving shoes, which arent welted. Its a few seconds. Sadly C&J doesnt have an comprehensive stockist in or near Leeds, so I havent had an opportunity to try their offerings.

If it is returned to any store, it is visible, and open for shipping throughout the system.

But Id still for the most expensive of all these you can afford. One other take away part of the overall product are such service aspects as availability, ease of ordering, timely delivery, etc. From July 2021, traders moving all goods will have to make full declarations and pay tariffs at the point of importation. Ive walked into a C&J store on many occasions with the hope of walking out with a new pair of shoes, unfortunately this is yet to happen.

very nice pair of shoes if i must say myself, Sure, good idea. Simon Ad from shop TruegritvintageStore

Id imagine the reason theyve held off from doing online for so long is because their Northampton factory would have probably worked to capacity to meet the demand of their retail stores, wholesale accounts and private label work. Also the article here on dressing in high heat.

I think weve gone through more fundamental change in the past year than at any time since the Second World War. All I need to do now is convince my wife that I really do need another pair of C&J shoes. These are rare instances but lead to an upset customer because youve either cancelled their order or the mistake isnt picked up before the item is dispatched to the customer.

It was the last day of my trip and the last shop I visited so I had already spent an obscene amount of money and wasnt sure if It was wise to buy more stuff. Ad from shop FatefulFindings With my quote being the second one used above bemoaning the lack of e-commerce, I feel I should clarify that Im a massive fan of the brand and bar the forementioned, have nothing but positive things to say about C&Js product and customer service, particularly the excellent staff and manager Asif in their Burlington Arcade shop.

It is certainly on a more dainty last than one would typically expect from a C&J shoe, and is unusual for having flat laces. Ad from shop BritbootvintageDMS You mean with information on all of the advertisers what they do and so on?

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That might be a factor with some brands, but unlikely with those that own their own production, like Crocketts. Its something weve been thinking about for almost a decade, certainly since I joined the company.

It could well be that the internal structure of the EG (for example do they use leather heel stiffners?) Uthere

AntiquesByGranny The other last Ive always liked is the 888, but they dont offer that as part of the ready-made collection any more. To me (as a foreigner) Crockett & Jones is a great example of British style and high quality. Thats probably been the foundation of a lot of our success over the past 30 years, but it does also create a situation where people arent that open to change. While I think everybody knows EG and its quality quite well, what can be said about TLB? Its just very difficult unless all the stock is in one place.

With powerful tools and services, along with expert support and education, we help creative entrepreneurs start, manage, and scale their businesses. PS: There are some pretty standard problems traditional companies have when they start e-commerce - including setting prices internationally, and aligning stock between stores. What changes have you seen in what Crocketts customers are buying? Leather soles might be more appropriate for formal occasions when a sole might be visible but there is no issue with Dainite causing difficulties when worn in town.

If you want to see if the shoe is available in a store somewhere, there will be a search function to look that up.

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From shop Eagleages, $159.00 Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. Ordered some C&J Chelsea boots from The Rake and had them shipped to my current EU pandemic address.

Ive been delaying building a good, basic collection of shoes for a little while, and I have been planning to use C&J to do so for the overlapping advantages of price, quality and the convenience of living in London, close to their retail shops and with access to their repairs services. From shop FatefulFindings, ad by PrincipalVintage